RESPONSE: Atheism?: Is It Real?

RESPONSE to Atheism?: Is It Real?

The bible also says 'ye shall know them by their fruits'.

So which of the 30,000 some odd sects do you believe is the RIGHT one so that we can discuss your specific beliefs?

Since they all have different beliefs that conflict with the others they cannot ALL be right - so that is a LOT of bad fruit.

How do you KNOW that you have the exact right version of beliefs?

You seem to think you are saved by faith alone but others disagree with you. Are you SURE you aren't saved by works?

When I look at the FRUIT of religion I see begging liars on TV asking for money, I see wealthy immoral church leaders, I see child raping priests, I see FLOCKS of people who shut their mind and harden their hearts against their fellow humans and try to deny them civil rights. They are racists and bigots.

1 Peter 2:1 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.

Has YOUR church done all these things?

I see fraud, slavery, theft, murder, hatred, sectarian violence around the world, all directly because of religious COMMANDS. Not just because there are bad apples in the bunch, DIRECTLY because of the commands and edicts of their religion.


Columbus, Ponce de Leon, Panfilo de Narvaez, Hernan Cortés, Francisco Pizarro... all Christians, all well-known murders and enslavers of uncountable numbers of indigenous people.

Bernal Diaz wrote of the sack of the Aztecs, that “When the Christians were exhausted from war, God saw fit to send the Indians smallpox, and there was great pestilence in the city.”

Dr. Michael McDonnel wrote in
The 'Conquest' of the Americas:
conquistadors regarded plunder, slaves, and tribute as the just desserts for their efforts in forcing pagans to accept Christianity and Spanish rule. After all, the conquistadors did scrupulously adhere to the Spanish law of conquest by reading the requerimiento, which ordered defiant Indians to immediately accept Spanish rule and Christian conversion, or face punishment in a “just war”. The requerimiento announced that “The resultant deaths and damages shall be your fault, and not the monarch’s or mine or the soldiers”. Attending witnesses and a notary usually certified in writing that the requerimiento had been read and ignored by the usually uncomprehending Indians, thus justifying the death and destruction that so often followed.

Well, Thank GOD they followed protocol before they murdered, raped, and enslaved entire populations. That makes it ok, right?


The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requerimiento was "used to justify the assertion that God, through historical Saint Peter and appointed Papal successors, held authority as ruler over the entire Earth; and that the Inter Caetera Papal Bull, of 4 May 1493 by Pope Alexander VI, conferred title over all the Americas to the Spanish monarchs"


But that's not YOUR religion, that was the "Catholics" so that doesn't count, right? They have it all wrong. Of course, they claim YOU have it all wrong, you have broken away from the one true Church, you know, the one founded by Jesus and Peter...

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[b] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[c] will not overcome it.

The Church put in the hands of Peter (who's name means the rock), handed down through apostolic succession.

And still, so many rotten fruits...

Minds so rotted by this stinking fruit that they can look at tens upon tens of THOUSANDS of scientific papers that all evidence and affirm that evolution is true, but they still deny it.

Minds so rotted by this stench of ignorance that they ignore that the heliocentric nature of the solar system PROVES the bible is false.

Both Paul V and Urban VIII KNEW the damage this information could do and suppressed this information to the point of burning Giordano Bruno to death over it. They greatly underestimated the credulity of their flock.